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Postby RickSteele » Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:14 am

I only posted this to try and help underxp; I, personally, am having absolutely no problems whatsoever with your installers. All are done on a fresh real install using nlite 1.3 and, to add even more news, I also have Boooggy's WMP11 addon and IE7 along with the 3 IE7 hotfixes slipstreamed into the same ISO. Like I said Rouge, man, you are on a roll. This is huge.
Two insignificant things; some of the SAP dll's you slipstream into i386 when using the RogueSpear's Runtimes CF V2.5.1 addon, or any of the other runtime addons that incorporate this feature, are older than, or not matched to, the ones you include in your RogueSpearAddonsSAPI51; the SAPI51 ones install though without any errors.
The Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 Tools for Office Second Edition Runtime appears in add/remove as Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 Tools for Office Runtime, sans Second Edition. The Second Edition files all are installed correctly though; just a typo.
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Postby RogueSpear » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:59 am

RickSteele wrote:Two insignificant things; some of the SAP dll's you slipstream into i386 when using the RogueSpear's Runtimes CF V2.5.1 addon, or any of the other runtime addons that incorporate this feature, are older than, or not matched to, the ones you include in your RogueSpearAddonsSAPI51; the SAPI51 ones install though without any errors.
The Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 Tools for Office Second Edition Runtime appears in add/remove as Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 Tools for Office Runtime, sans Second Edition. The Second Edition files all are installed correctly though; just a typo.

I got rid of the SAPI installer because even though I was using Microsoft's own installer, it was not always updating the files. I don't think any of the files are older, some are definately newer however. I basically got all of the necessary files for that from the SAPI SDK and Windows Server 2003 SP2. So this should constitute the latest versions of the files you're going to find. It appears MS has abandoned the old SAPI in favor .NET3.

As far as VSTO goes, the downloaded runtimes from MS do not indicate second edition in the versioning information (a la VC++ 2005 SP1). I thought I had modified the .msi to append "SE" at the end of the title, but perhaps I had forgot.

I won't be able to update the affected runtime installers for these two issues and the .dll reported by underxp until late tonight or possibly tommorow, but after all of this work I will update them because they may as well be as close to perfect as I can get them.
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Postby RickSteele » Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:17 pm

Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 Tools for Office Second Edition Runtime, look in URL below for that "Second Edition" in the name, but, really, who cares in the scheme of thngs, ya' know? The packs are a Godsend and install all perfectly; I only mentioned it for completeness; plus the visto files are all the correct SE versions, wished I hadn't bothered you with it now.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... laylang=en
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Postby RogueSpear » Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:46 pm

Like I was saying, the latest version is in the pack. It's just that Microsoft didn't see fit to fully bang out the title in the ARP entry. Of course the title is long as it is, there may be a length restriction.
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Postby underxp » Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:31 pm

Thanks RogueSpear for your attention !!!!! I will wait for the next version to try again.
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Postby msdemich » Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:16 pm

Thank you RogueSpear!

Great work!
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Postby msdemich » Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:19 pm

In order to get the dotnet 3.0 runtimes in an unattend nLite CD, do I do this?
    Integrate Addons with RyanVM
    Make a %OEM% folder in my XPCD folder.
    Place 030_RogueSpearsRuntimesPart2.exe in that folder
    Run nLite on XPCD folder, and enter "/%OEM%/030_RogueSpearsRuntimesPart2.exe" in the OneOnceEx field
    Make ISO with nLite


I've been making ISOs with addons for a while, but I'm new at getting switchless installers to work and I am not confident I know what I'm doing when I edit winnt.sif or runonceex.

Is there a guide for a noob to make the .NET 3.0 installer work on an nLite install? I've been fiddling with this for hours. Any guidance would be much appreciated.

Thanks. :)
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Postby RogueSpear » Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:02 pm

@msdemich, I've never used nLite's RunOnceEx functions before so I really can't say how it works. What I can say is that if you put something in $OEM$ it's probably not going to work. Anything in $OEM$ is copied to the root of the system hard disk during setup and used during the GUI portion of setup, like the cmdlines.txt file. Any such file is deleted at the end of setup, which is prior to RunOnceEx running.

One possibility would be to put it in $OEM$\$1. Anything in there will be copied to the same location as $OEM$ but it will remain there after setup. What I always do with my disc based installs is create a directory called OEM (without the $ signs) and put everything in there. This way setup will a tad quicker since whatever is in there won't be copied to the hard drive. Herein lies some of the difficulties however. You need to find a way to tell RunOnceEx where that is. If it is always going to be driver letter D then you could put in D:\filename.exe. But sometimes it's not that way. Like I said previously, I'm not really familiar with how nLite works out RunOnceEx. There may be some built-in functionality for this but I don't know.
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Postby Mitsuko Aninikkou » Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:30 pm

There are several ways to do it, but the only truly reliable one (that works in both the RVM Integrator and nLite) seems to be to have the switchless installers copied to the systemroot then use a .cmd file that adds some registry entries to RunOnceEx to run the installer and delete it afterwards. If you want to know how to do this, have a look at the integration file for Shark007's VistaCodecPack.
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Postby RogueSpear » Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:03 pm

If you use the ScriptPack it's very easy to add a switchless silent installer to your RunOnceEx routine as well.
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Postby RogueSpear » Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:07 pm

20070419 - Updates (again)

RogueSpear's Runtimes updated to V2.5.2
RogueSpear's Runtimes CF updated to V2.5.2
RogueSpear's Other Runtimes updated to V1.6.2

msvcr71.dll has been removed from all three installers.
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Postby underxp » Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:35 am

Thanks, I'll try this version at night...
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Postby odyn1982 » Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:12 pm

underxp wrote:Error installing RogueSpear's Runtimes in line (9), character (1): The file already exists, code 800A003A.?

I had the same problem, so I removed all other runtimes from "RogueSpear's Runtimes V2.5.11" and edited install.vbs, then I installed these runtimes from "RogueSpear's Other Runtimes V1.6.1" (install.cmd always works).
But when I use new "RogueSpear's Runtimes V2.5.2" I've got the same problem. So I found that msvcr70.dll from Kels_Uber_Addon_v9.9 is the reason.
Code: Select all
9.9 Changelog
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Added msvcr70.dll (Notepad2 dependancy damnit)...

I've tested this with many addons and switchless installers and without Kels Uber Pack 9.9 it works now :D
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Postby Speeddymon » Sat Apr 21, 2007 12:16 am

Calculon wrote:Roguespear: I think I may have found a problem with your new dotnet all in one addon. Whenever windows starts up it is unusable for a couple of minutes until this appears in the event log:

Event ID 7016: The WebClient service has reported an invalid current state 87.

Event ID 7022: The WebClient service hung on starting.

Here is my list of addons:

RVMUpdatePack2.1.8.7z
RogueSpearAddonsAdobeReader_8.0.0.456.zip
RogueSpearAddonsRuntimes_3.0.zip
RVMAddons_1.8.1.7z
RVMAddonsDX9_1.2.7z
RVMAddonsWGAN_1.7.18.1.7z
Boooggy_WMP11_Addon.7z
dotnet3fix_addon.7z
NR_IE7en_Addon_1.0.3a.wr.7z
RogueSpearAddons7-Zip_4.42.cab

The only thing I changed in my new disk is the runtimes 3.0 so it looks like that is the culprit. Any ideas?
RogueSpear wrote:Aye, I read that over at Ryan's place. I'll be running some tests tommorow to try and see if this is a) indeed a problem and b) fixable.

Indeed this is why I labeled the installer/addon as a beta release.


This has been a problem for some time, however I never reported it because a) I had no clue that it was caused by .net 3 b) I had no time to test to see what caused it and c) it didn't drive me completely batty

Currently I am using a CD that I put together in January of 07, and every time it boots up, I have to wait about 2 mins before I can do anything.
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Postby Kakaru » Sat Apr 21, 2007 1:12 am

Unfortunately I still have the error fist mentioned by underxp:
- RogueSpear's Runtimes V2.5.2 switchless installer
- windows sp2 installed, running from windows itself, not setup

Error is : 0_RogueSpearsRuntimes_.vbs(9, 1) Microsoft VBScript runtime error: File already exists
Line 9 is the fs.MoveFile command.

I don't have much experience with scripts but:
1) is there an overwrite switch for movefile?
2) perhaps copy command doesn't has this error.

I hope you will fix this, I really appreciate your files.
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